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Tsi_AWD_Talon
DSM Post Whore
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 869 Location: San Fernando Valley
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 need some suggestions QUICK!!!
alright, so i was driving to work when i made a left my car just died. I pulled over and tried to start it again, i hear a clicking under the console that comes and goes. The car cranks but it wont turn on whatsoever. I did some research on dsmtuners and i keep reading about bad MPI relays and other relays or ECU, whats most likely the problem?? need help ASAP!!!
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Last edited by Tsi_AWD_Talon on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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SOADweskey
No More 2.3L
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:36 pm Posts: 4412 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
If it cranks but won't start then check to make sure you have fuel and spark. Check your fuel pump relay and fuse and also check that your spark pugs are actually sparking.
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
Left turn + car shut off =CRANKWALK!! not to scare you or anything. Please refer to this thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4217 before asking questions about why your car wont start and provide the following. Fuel? Spark? The MPI relay aka "main relay" is on the passenger side kick panel, bolted to the radio/center console braket. It turns the ECU and fuel pump on.
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:50 am |
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turboawdfanatic
Moderator
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:39 pm Posts: 3013 Location: La Habra
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
Start here, let us know what the results are:
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:50 pm |
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Tsi_AWD_Talon
DSM Post Whore
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 869 Location: San Fernando Valley
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
Ok so I came back to the car and turned the key to the on position, found the clicking relay, got the part number called glendale mitsu, they said its the main relay. What would make this relay click? Will it click when its out, or can it click because something else is out?? I wanna know before I go ahead and order the part, I called around and autozone, pep boys, kragen, don't carry them. Has anyone ever had this problem?
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
It clicking is it trying to complete a circuit but not being able to hole it. First off check the grounds on it. You can bypass the relay and put a jumper between the two switched pins to get the car to start.
_________________1/4 ET-11.657@121.18mph w/ 1.682 60' 445whp/427tq on RRE Dyno All on 91 pump. Do you need your car tooned? Got some extra cash? PM me for details. I offer street and dyno tunes
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H8VTEC
Quagmire
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 5:41 pm Posts: 2343 Location: Alhambra
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:06 pm |
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Tsi_AWD_Talon
DSM Post Whore
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 869 Location: San Fernando Valley
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
Well if I can bypass it to get the car started I can save some cash on the tow home, but I rather pay 35 bucks intead if there's a possibility of fucking something else up. So the clicking pretty much is means that relay is bad, right?
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SOADweskey
No More 2.3L
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:36 pm Posts: 4412 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
A relay clicks when it works. You are hearing the electromagnetic switch inside. When relays make no noise at all they are dead. If the noise is exceptionally loud there could be a mechanical problem inside the relay that isn't allowing the switch arm to complete the circuit but that is unlikely. My guess is that if you hear the relay it is fine and you have some other problem.
_________________ Boost Creep is your turbo's way of calling you a little bitch for not running enough boost.
452 AWHP 446 lb ft of torque e85 FTW!!
"They are cool manly men now those DSM owners. Before it was just pasty white nerds, metro hair Asian kids and fruit pickers. They do real car club stuff and everything. Sometimes they even spend money here :-/"
-Mike W
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:40 pm |
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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if its just one click, its probably good. if it goes click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click
then theres a problem
_________________1/4 ET-11.657@121.18mph w/ 1.682 60' 445whp/427tq on RRE Dyno All on 91 pump. Do you need your car tooned? Got some extra cash? PM me for details. I offer street and dyno tunes
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:49 pm |
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Wally
Senior Member
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:59 pm Posts: 2238 Location: Los Angeles 90006
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
Sam remember last time you helped me out on my car when I drove to RRE and you switched the cables on my car. Remember when I tried starting the car we herd this clicking noise comming from the center console and we found that black box you told me it was relay is this similar to his or no. Well to the OP does it take a few turns on the ignition for the car to turn on or does it make a weird clicking type of noise as well.
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:55 pm |
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Tsi_AWD_Talon
DSM Post Whore
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 869 Location: San Fernando Valley
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
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Tsi_AWD_Talon
DSM Post Whore
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 869 Location: San Fernando Valley
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
does anybody know what other car might have this same relay?? Would a Pic help???
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| Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:23 pm |
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
just jump the relay. All a relay is, is just and electrical switch. Get a test light and figure which one is ground, which is power from the ignition switch, which is constant power and and which goes to the ECU. You need to put a jumper between constant and ecu power. Or go to a mitsu dealer and buy one. BtW do you have the one single golden relay with two circuits in it or two individual black relays.
_________________1/4 ET-11.657@121.18mph w/ 1.682 60' 445whp/427tq on RRE Dyno All on 91 pump. Do you need your car tooned? Got some extra cash? PM me for details. I offer street and dyno tunes
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| Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:14 am |
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Tsi_AWD_Talon
DSM Post Whore
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 869 Location: San Fernando Valley
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 Re: need some suggenstions QUICK!!!
Its one single golden one, so if I bypass it'll work without messing anything up?
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