RC and Denso all the way
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| Author: | Illeagle [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FIC injectors suck ass. |
I just thought I put that out there for people who are enticed to buy these cus they are big and cheap. They don't scale for shit. And I've seen a few die. What I mean by not scaling at all, I did a set where you figure the math for the global setting and put it in and its 26% too rich. I take 20% away and the car leans out and dies. Add the 20% back in and its too rich. Take out 1% at a time and for a few % it doesn't even budge. Then all of a sudden 1% makes like 15% change in fueling. POS. Don't buy it. |
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| Author: | DSM99 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
Thanks for the heads up because I was planning on getting some of these once I upgarde my denso 660's. If my tuner says they suck, then they suck. |
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| Author: | SOADweskey [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
You gotta post this when I am about to unload my 1150's. But seriously I wouldn't sell them to anyone because I suspect that perhaps the injector in cylinder 2 malfunctioning may have helped to kill my engine. |
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| Author: | fmedgsx [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
do you have any experience with messing with Injector dynamic injectors? |
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| Author: | clockworktoy [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
RC and Denso all the way
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| Author: | eclipsegsx1736 [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
I have personally never had a problem with an FIC injector. My set of FIC 950s which I recently retired to go bigger, have over 50,000 miles on them and had NEVER been cleaned. I flow tested them at work and they were within 2.5% of each other, and I tested them repeatedly at varying pulsewidths (idle test, 25% at 5000 rpm, 50% at 8000 rpm, 100% IDC etc). This is quite impressive considering the mileage, and the fact that they've been on E85 for the last 10k miles or so. They did have some of the buildup associated with running E85 but didn't affect the operation of the injectors. They have been over 90% IDC hundreds of times (causing them to stick open, as any injector will do) but they always immediately close and still work great. Also, Tom/Dave from DSMLink forums said the new FIC2150cc injectors are the best they have ever used. I have tuned and dealt with countless cars with FIC injectors and never heard of an issue. That's just my experience though, not to say that some of them may or may not have issues or be defective. I'm sure that if you have an issue with a set, they'd be happy to take care of you. |
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| Author: | christ [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
How's your new internship at FIC, Beau? |
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| Author: | eclipsegsx1736 [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
Haha, I know right? That's what I was thinking as I was writing the post. Seriously, I've never heard of complaints of FIC or ID injectors until now. Denso injectors stand out to me as the ones I've heard the most complaints about, mainly regarding consistency and deadtimes, but they're also a very old injector so that's expected to some extent. |
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| Author: | Illeagle [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FIC injectors suck ass. |
In the last week I've dealt with two sets of FIC1250's Bluemax. Both of them would not Idle near a 14.7:1 AFR with a 1200RPM idle. And if I set things up so that the car would idle with a 12ish :1 afr, just free reving it up to 3K or so, AFRs will swing back and fourth from 11.9:1 to 21:1. The thing wouldn't settle anywhere near 14.7 I bet they would work fine on e85 because that drops em down 20% or so already. But on pump gas, these things can hold a stable AFR within 1:1. Pretty sure these will work fine WOT, but idle and driving, not so much. I've got a few logs of just trying to set it up to idle and free rev with a stable afr. |
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