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2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
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LambdaJoker
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:12 am Posts: 518 Location: Pomona
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2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
I did some research on this mod, and I'm aware that the rods need to be machined in order to fit the 2g pistons. No big deal, I can do that in class. But then I came across this tech article on tuners, http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/article ... ction.html, and from my interpretation, this only applies to 1g's since it mentions that this was done on a 1g GSX. As far as a 2g, will I have to worry about timing control or detonation control? Also, the article mentions a supporting mods list in order to run the 2g piston/1g rod combo reliably. Is this necessary for a 2g as well? I'm doing a 6 bolt swap into my 2g, but one of the pistons from the 6 bolt had broken ringlands, so I decided to use my 2g pistons, but just need some clarification before I go ahead and do this. Otherwise I'll have to hunt down a good 1g piston. All input is appreciated, especially from the you old school dsmers that have more experience than I do when it comes to dsms. I will be putting my 2g head on the 6 bolt block. In class I will bore out the bolt holes in order to fit the 1g arp headstuds I will be using.
_________________ -Raul aka Jr. 1996 Eclipse GSX 1992 Eclipse GSX (down at the moment) 2003 Yamaha R6
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Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:13 pm |
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ElUnico718
DSM Regular
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 126 Location: Hesperia, CA
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
I have a set of 1g 7:1 pistons I can trade u for those 2g 8:1 if u want, I'm doing the a 6 bolt swap also, I have 3 good 2g pistons and one with the landing squished a bit so I'm lookin for a 2g set, let me know if ur interested.
-Dominican-
_________________-Dominican- "Boobies are pointless without nipples", "If it burns when u pee, urine trouble"
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Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:43 pm |
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clockworktoy
Squish Face
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:08 pm Posts: 4327 Location: LBC
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
To do a proper rebuild you would need to get that block machined, new oversized pistons, new rings and bearings, etc. The cost is kind of high for and comparable to doing a rebuild with forged pistons/rods. If you don't want to machine the block you won't know for sure that the rings will seal correctly. I did evo pistons on 1g rods a while back and it worked alright till a rod snapped. If you're going this route you might want to go with evo pistons over 2g since they are stronger and will fit the same once the rods are machined.
PS. That article does not pertain to you, since you have a 2g.
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:55 pm |
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LambdaJoker
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:12 am Posts: 518 Location: Pomona
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
Thanks for clearing things up. I might just go ahead and go with 1g pistons after all. As far as the machine work, I can do that in class. I'll be checking for cylinder wall out-of-round, deck warpage, ring gap clearance, piston-to-wall clearance, etc.. As long as everything is within spec, I can get by with just new bearings and rings, according to my instructor who used to work at Shelby. I'm on a tight budget, so whatever I can get away with, I will to make it cheaper on me. I wont have to pay for any machine work since i can do it in class, so that helps me out alot financially. It would be nice to do a proper rebuild with everything new, but my finances don't allow that right now.
_________________ -Raul aka Jr. 1996 Eclipse GSX 1992 Eclipse GSX (down at the moment) 2003 Yamaha R6
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:38 pm |
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-red97rum-
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Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 1077 Location: Ontario, CA [IE]
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
_________________-Dustin 1992 Tsi Auto Swapped 10.67@126mph
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:07 pm |
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LambdaJoker
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:12 am Posts: 518 Location: Pomona
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
Hey dustin, as far as rod/main bearings and rings from parts dinosaur, is the quality comparable to oem since he does claim oem spec parts? I mean, as far as hp figures, are the parts dinosaur parts good between 300-350hp, or is oem the better alternative? Frank recommended me to get the bearing and rings from pd, and I've ordered timing belt kits from pd with no problems, but I'm not too sure about the quality of his parts when it comes to something as crucial as crank/rod bearings. Maybe you have some previous experience with an eninge build using pd parts and the quality/reliability of them.
_________________ -Raul aka Jr. 1996 Eclipse GSX 1992 Eclipse GSX (down at the moment) 2003 Yamaha R6
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:32 pm |
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-red97rum-
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Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 1077 Location: Ontario, CA [IE]
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
_________________-Dustin 1992 Tsi Auto Swapped 10.67@126mph
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:04 pm |
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awdmonster
frank the tank
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
this block you have is mint core for a build its my old one i dont think you need to go oversize
_________________ 90 eclipse GSX 609hp 450tq E85 1/4mile 11.7 @ 121 mph personal best on a 20g 1/4mile 11.6 @125 mph personal best on a FP GREEN on a wounded HG 1/4mile 10.5 @ 136 mph personal best 3582R Las Vegas 1/4mile 10.41@ 137.9 mph Fontana personal best 3582R 5 Gears...4 wheel drive/steer...3 Diamonds...2 cams...1 Turbo...0 Reliability
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:00 pm |
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LambdaJoker
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:12 am Posts: 518 Location: Pomona
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Re: 2g pistons on 1g rods/ 6 bolt swap
Yeah bro, all of the main bearings look real good. I hot tanked the block last night. The outside of the block was all filthy with road grime. It's all nice and clean now.
_________________ -Raul aka Jr. 1996 Eclipse GSX 1992 Eclipse GSX (down at the moment) 2003 Yamaha R6
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:08 pm |
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