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Guru650
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Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:07 pm Posts: 145 Location: Victorville ca
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Annoying ticking sound
Hey guys,
I've been noticing the past few weeks my 4g63 has been making a ticking noise frm start up.... When I let it sit at idle and fully warm up it goes away. But as a slightly press on the gas it comes bak, untill after driving it 10-30 mins it then completly goes away. It happens frm 1k-1.8k rpm...
I did an experiment once and floord it while it was ticking, it made a loud screeching noise together with the spool up... But then goes away after the second run. I don't understand it cuz the engines fully warmed up, the oils been circulating... But still taps/ticks... It's not the valves cuz the valves would tick/tap at every rpm...
What could it be? Anyone ran into this prob...
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:52 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
lifter tick
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:53 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
it happens to our cars, it pretty common usually not serious, what weight oil are you running?
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:55 am |
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christ
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Joined: Mon Jan 01, 1979 5:00 am Posts: 5739 Location: D-Town
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
Bombs: bad, hard drives: bad, our cars:
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:01 am |
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Guru650
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Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:07 pm Posts: 145 Location: Victorville ca
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Annoying ticking sound
I'm using 20w50 valvoline vr1...
So it's my lifters.... Hmmm After driving it a while, it then happens still around 1k-1.4k rpm, but not as loud. It never really goes away. Jus gets quieter.
Are there any solutions, or is it just normal.... I've never heard it before 50k-60k miles, it sounds like gets louder an louder every month that goes by.
It Makes my dsm sound broken when I'm around ppl... lol
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:40 am |
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Erix
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:10 pm Posts: 4767 Location: 818
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
Why 20w50? That's too thick of an oil for these dsm's unless you have oil leaks that are pretty bad...
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:56 am |
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LambdaJoker
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:12 am Posts: 518 Location: Pomona
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
3rd gen revised lifters seems to be a good fix for the lifter tick.
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:22 am |
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Guru650
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Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:07 pm Posts: 145 Location: Victorville ca
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Annoying ticking sound
I figured as much... That's the weight I was told to use by a few members here, coming frm using standard conventional oil.... I had a feeling it was too thick. But 20w50 is all I could find for the VR1's....
I'll have to find another type of oil to use, should I change it asap? Or is it ok to wait, I just changed it the begining of this month. I still got 2.5k miles left till I change it again.
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:35 am |
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Erix
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:10 pm Posts: 4767 Location: 818
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
meh, you can wait until next oil change. a number of us use Mobil 1 oil. 10w30 unless you have some oil seapage or minor leaks or higher miles, then 10w40 would be better imo
_________________ Current: '97 GS-T Spyder Past: '90 2.0L GS Turbo, '98 GS-T Spyder, '90 1.8L GS
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:23 pm |
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awdmonster
frank the tank
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:40 pm |
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-red97rum-
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Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 1077 Location: Ontario, CA [IE]
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
^^ +1 I run 20-50 convential VR1 here too. Probably not necessary for a pretty basic setup or daily driver. I don't drive my car every day, but when I do it's usually seeing 35+ psi of boost and a little nitrous. VR1 did pretty well in Forced Performance's oil study and it's price makes it a very attractive choice. Although you can get jug (4.75 quarts) of Mobile 1 for about $25 at walmart. http://store.forcedperformance.net/merc ... %20Oil.pdf Another read, if you're bored, regarding 20-50 oil in EVO's and oil pump life in high performance applications: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub ... er=2206204
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:49 pm |
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boosting_laser
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 10:48 pm Posts: 781 Location: Whittier
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
I agree with my esteem colleges above. VR1 is great for higher hp motors. As a matta of fact, thats the only reason why I broke into the tens & that aint no bullshit either!
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:59 pm |
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Guru650
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Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:07 pm Posts: 145 Location: Victorville ca
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Annoying ticking sound
I see... Being that I'm daily driving it, well under 14psi. Thers no need for 20w50... I punch it (occasionaly lol) when hondas/acuras wanna see what i got.... Or other imports. but I don't race alot. It's stock, what attracks people is the spool up being loud frm the cone filter I have.... (no exhaust) i like it quiet... Even tho someday I'll drop in a full 3" turbo back, but still keep the stok muffler in the end. A friend of mine had a brand new 5gal of penzoil 10w30 laying around. I jacked him an used it to see if it was the oil, and it was... Now every morning the ticking is 90% quieter and it goes away pretty quickly (10-15 seconds). When i was running the 20w50 vr1, it was hella loud and took (4-8) minutes for it to go away. I'm gonna read up on how to clean my lifters... I heard there's this oil additive that's added before an oil change to get rid of all the gunk, and quitens lifters... Gonna do some research
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:34 pm |
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Erix
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:10 pm Posts: 4767 Location: 818
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Re: Annoying ticking sound
aftermarket exhaust doesn't mean it has to be loud. my 3" RS*R catback isn't much louder than stock...and i'm not running a cat.
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:44 pm |
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Guru650
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Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:07 pm Posts: 145 Location: Victorville ca
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Annoying ticking sound
Really... I've never heard an aftermarket that was quiet... Or close to quiet. I'll have to check that rs-r for sure now lol, u got a pic? And the model info, How much do they run...
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