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awdmonster
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Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
I just found out I have some clutch pedal play this topic is talk about on dsmtuners alot but they really dot tell you how much play is bad Can you have some play? I Is welding better than OEM ? or bisebersa
I have play in the pedal may be like quarter inch I have to take it out and either weld it or rebuild it
_________________ 90 eclipse GSX 609hp 450tq E85 1/4mile 11.7 @ 121 mph personal best on a 20g 1/4mile 11.6 @125 mph personal best on a FP GREEN on a wounded HG 1/4mile 10.5 @ 136 mph personal best 3582R Las Vegas 1/4mile 10.41@ 137.9 mph Fontana personal best 3582R 5 Gears...4 wheel drive/steer...3 Diamonds...2 cams...1 Turbo...0 Reliability
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turboawdfanatic
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Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:39 pm Posts: 3013 Location: La Habra
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
*ANY* play is bad. 1/4 inch in the pedal translates to a lot of play at the TOB. Plus, a little play is just going to get worse. Welding is bad for 3 reasons: 1) You have to do it *JUST* right. There's 1,000 ways to do it wrong. VERY few people know how to do it right anymore 2) You risk melting the plastic bushing on the back side of the lever. Then you get side-to-side play 3) Welds break. Jack at Jack's Transmissions has dealt with this a LOT. Even with superb welding and reinforcement, they only last so long before they snap. I say pull it and get all new OEM parts. If you want the best of both worlds, rebuild it, then have someone who KNOWS HOW weld it for you. Shep will do it for you, but it will cost about $100 Everybody says "replace with OEM and you're good for another 100,000 miles". Well, I did that twice, and both times, it rounded out the lever in less than a day. =\ It may have been due to a faulty pressure plate though. My clutch pedal effort took 2-3 times the effort of other people running the same clutch. If you're running an ACT 2100, new OEM parts should be just fine. If you're running 2600, they might be fine. Best solution is to rebuild and have someone good weld it for you. Now, if you want to go ALL OUT, have somebody machine some sintered bronze bushings to replace the OEM plastic bushings. They will never wear out like the plastic ones, and you can weld the new lever without worrying about melting the plastic underneath. I have a pedal assembly like this sitting on the side for when my welded pedal assembly eventually gives out. Good luck! IMHO, this is the BIGGEST pain in the ass issue with the 1G cars. I know people that would rather do an engine swap than have to remove/reinstall their pedal assembly. I've done it 3 times.
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awdmonster
frank the tank
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
_________________ 90 eclipse GSX 609hp 450tq E85 1/4mile 11.7 @ 121 mph personal best on a 20g 1/4mile 11.6 @125 mph personal best on a FP GREEN on a wounded HG 1/4mile 10.5 @ 136 mph personal best 3582R Las Vegas 1/4mile 10.41@ 137.9 mph Fontana personal best 3582R 5 Gears...4 wheel drive/steer...3 Diamonds...2 cams...1 Turbo...0 Reliability
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boosting_laser
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 10:48 pm Posts: 781 Location: Whittier
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
_________________Hugo Best 1/4 mile: 10.78 @ 131, 27psi, E85 Best 1/8 mile: 6.97 @ 101, 29 psi, E85531.5whp 414.8tq @ 29psi, FP3575 on Q16
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awdmonster
frank the tank
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
_________________ 90 eclipse GSX 609hp 450tq E85 1/4mile 11.7 @ 121 mph personal best on a 20g 1/4mile 11.6 @125 mph personal best on a FP GREEN on a wounded HG 1/4mile 10.5 @ 136 mph personal best 3582R Las Vegas 1/4mile 10.41@ 137.9 mph Fontana personal best 3582R 5 Gears...4 wheel drive/steer...3 Diamonds...2 cams...1 Turbo...0 Reliability
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turboawdfanatic
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Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:39 pm Posts: 3013 Location: La Habra
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Lenny 15
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 10:44 pm Posts: 1071 Location: Garden Grove
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
This is the next thing on my list for the 1G. I had my phone stolen so I lost everyone's numbers so call me or text me.
_________________ 90' Eclipse GSX. MODS: 2000 Lightning. 132k miles, 405rwhp, 481rwtq. 13.4 @ 103mph "Sure I respect him, but there are lots of tools I respect. Such as the torque wrench and the Cut-off wheel."
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Erix
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:10 pm Posts: 4767 Location: 818
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
NOT fun, but not a total PIA either. Day/Night difference though
_________________ Current: '97 GS-T Spyder Past: '90 2.0L GS Turbo, '98 GS-T Spyder, '90 1.8L GS
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awdmonster
frank the tank
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
OMG
_________________ 90 eclipse GSX 609hp 450tq E85 1/4mile 11.7 @ 121 mph personal best on a 20g 1/4mile 11.6 @125 mph personal best on a FP GREEN on a wounded HG 1/4mile 10.5 @ 136 mph personal best 3582R Las Vegas 1/4mile 10.41@ 137.9 mph Fontana personal best 3582R 5 Gears...4 wheel drive/steer...3 Diamonds...2 cams...1 Turbo...0 Reliability
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Raymond
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CaptainTonus
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Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:25 pm Posts: 529 Location: San Diego, CA.
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
FWIW, I used to have this problem on one of my DSM's. I got it welded numerous times. The welds kept breaking on me. Once you weld that metal once, it weakens it severely, it is not strong metal, hence the reason it warps and you get play. I have to assume the Shep knows how to do it right, but honestly, if you're gonna go through the trouble of pulling that pedal assembly out of there, just replace it with one that isn't worn out and be done with it. That's what I did, and even with an ACT 2900 clutch I never had issues again.
_________________'91 GSX - 511fwhp & 352 lb/ft @ 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 91 octane @ 21psi '98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD http://www.facebook.com/captaintonus
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awdmonster
frank the tank
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:38 pm Posts: 2377 Location: At the stripclub in Ontario!
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
_________________ 90 eclipse GSX 609hp 450tq E85 1/4mile 11.7 @ 121 mph personal best on a 20g 1/4mile 11.6 @125 mph personal best on a FP GREEN on a wounded HG 1/4mile 10.5 @ 136 mph personal best 3582R Las Vegas 1/4mile 10.41@ 137.9 mph Fontana personal best 3582R 5 Gears...4 wheel drive/steer...3 Diamonds...2 cams...1 Turbo...0 Reliability
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turboawdfanatic
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Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:39 pm Posts: 3013 Location: La Habra
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Lenny 15
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Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 10:44 pm Posts: 1071 Location: Garden Grove
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
_________________ 90' Eclipse GSX. MODS: 2000 Lightning. 132k miles, 405rwhp, 481rwtq. 13.4 @ 103mph "Sure I respect him, but there are lots of tools I respect. Such as the torque wrench and the Cut-off wheel."
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LOLVTEC
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Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:35 pm Posts: 815
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Re: Welding a 1g clutch pedal assembly
Oh man i'm in the same boat!
_________________ 1990 tsi (Fwd) almost built 1991 tsi (awd auto) bone stock. dd when i get it to run 1991 tsi awd (stock) future build
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