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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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replacing valve springs with motor assembled
so since i toasted my motor, im picking up an already built motor from a friend its a built bottom end with a stock valved train, and i want to out my upgraded valve springs and retainers on but id like to do it without taking the head off. the motor has only 5k miles on it since it was built and id like to leave it together so i dont have to replace the HG. so does anyone have experiance doing this? and does anyone have the tools to do this? i was thinking to get this http://www.euroexportinc.com/store/tool ... essor.html it seems a bit time consuming but i have heard of others using it and it works good, anyone have one? thoughts, ideas?
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:42 am |
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-red97rum-
Senior Member
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 1077 Location: Ontario, CA [IE]
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
You can use that tool and get it done with the head still on the motor. You just need to use compressed air in the cylinder you're working on so the valves don't drop. I almost bought that tool a couple weeks ago when I was taking apart my head. It's pretty legit and the price isn't too bad at all.
_________________-Dustin 1992 Tsi Auto Swapped 10.67@126mph
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:17 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
well thats a problem for me, i dont have a great air compressor. i was hoping to just rotate the cylinder to TDC and do it. the valve cant fall that far right?
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:18 am |
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
This is what I use when we do Valve spring installs with motors still in the car. Ive done the job in 30 minutes or so ( not counting cam removal and install ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYHoKfBxLLsBluepoint GA317
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:34 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
what fitting do you use to charge air through the spark plug hole?
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:34 pm |
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SOADweskey
No More 2.3L
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 7:36 pm Posts: 4412 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
I have the air hold tool but I won't be in CA for a few weeks. I bought mine at Napa.
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:53 pm |
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
leak down tester works
_________________1/4 ET-11.657@121.18mph w/ 1.682 60' 445whp/427tq on RRE Dyno All on 91 pump. Do you need your car tooned? Got some extra cash? PM me for details. I offer street and dyno tunes
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:17 pm |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
im gonna swing by harbor freight on my way home and see if they have a cheap one lol
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:04 pm |
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turboawdfanatic
Moderator
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:39 pm Posts: 3013 Location: La Habra
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
You can get a regular old pressure tester and remove the gauge from one end and the needle valve from the other end and use that.
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:25 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:04 am |
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-red97rum-
Senior Member
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am Posts: 1077 Location: Ontario, CA [IE]
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
_________________-Dustin 1992 Tsi Auto Swapped 10.67@126mph
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:11 am |
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boosting_laser
Senior Member
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 10:48 pm Posts: 781 Location: Whittier
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
Adam, just use the rope method
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:17 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
im gonna try the air compressor thing, the motor is out of the car so if s valve does drop i will just grab it through the intake or exhaust port or worst case pull the head
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:47 am |
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Black_gst
Death to Head Gaskets!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:38 am Posts: 1979
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:33 am |
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Illeagle
Talon of Doom
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 am Posts: 3615 Location: Long Beach
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Re: replacing valve springs with motor assembled
We've dont duals with that tool no problem. Just gotta give it a good whack with a legit hammer. Not one of those little bitch framing hammers, talking 2lb+ hammer. http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rhino-2lb-D ... dge+hammerA little vaseline to hold the keepers in the retainers, place the retainers on the spring, push down a bit, centered (tip/trick) make sure its centered, then WHACK. Push it a few times to make sure its completely seated then on the the next one. That tool is bad ass eh?
_________________1/4 ET-11.657@121.18mph w/ 1.682 60' 445whp/427tq on RRE Dyno All on 91 pump. Do you need your car tooned? Got some extra cash? PM me for details. I offer street and dyno tunes
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:10 pm |
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